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Juliana, our former Queen, died yesterday. She would have been 95 next month. And a few hours after losing her mother, the Queen became a grandmother for the 3rd time: Prince Constantijn's wife gave birth to a baby boy early this morning, Claus-Casimir. Seems like the House of Orange will go on, at least for another generation.

I was born and grew up during Juliana's reign. She was a warm and caring woman, everyone's favourite grandmother, quite different apparently from her mother (who became Queen on the death of her father way back in 1890) and from her own daughter, who is much more brisk and business-like (but who has done a splendid job as Queen, I think, since taking the oath in 1980).

Strange to think that she's gone. It seemed as if she was going to go on forever, although she hadn't been seen in public for a while. Her death, it's not unexpected...yet in a way, it is.

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bogwitch
Mar. 21st, 2004 07:40 am (UTC)
95. She had a good run.
gamiila
Mar. 22nd, 2004 03:00 am (UTC)
Yes, she did. 'They' have worked out that she was the oldest Orange-Nassau ever...not bad considering her family's been prominent, and records have been kept of them, in this part of the world since the 15th century.
hesadevil
Mar. 21st, 2004 07:56 am (UTC)
It seemed as if she was going to go on forever
A bit like our Queen Mother.

a few hours after losing her mother, the Queen became a grandmother for the 3rd time
One in, one out. Your poor Queen. This grandchild will be forever linked to her memory of the death of her mother.

It's Mothering Sunday here in the UK, so not good a day for losing your mother. Not that any day would be a good day.
gamiila
Mar. 22nd, 2004 02:55 am (UTC)
Your poor Queen. This grandchild will be forever linked to her memory of the death of her mother.

I suppose you're right. Poor little mite - not even 2 days old and already marked down as having an appalling sense of timing...

On the other hand, he may take her mind off her loss a bit, and prove a comfort. Also because he has been given the name of her husband, Claus, who died just a year and a half ago.
desdemonaspace
Mar. 21st, 2004 08:30 am (UTC)
I just read about it in the Minneapolis papers, and thought of you immediately. My condolences on your and your country's loss. Queen Juliana sounds like someone I would like to have been ruled by (or had as a grandmother!)
gamiila
Mar. 22nd, 2004 02:49 am (UTC)
Thank you -- I was quite amazed to hear her death got a mention on CNN, but now you tell me even the Minneapolis papers report on it?

Wow Juul, I never thought you were that famous! Respect.
desdemonaspace
Mar. 22nd, 2004 03:09 am (UTC)
Yup. Here's the obit. She sounds like quite a woman. BTW, congratulations on the birth of the new little prince.
gamiila
Mar. 22nd, 2004 04:46 am (UTC)
Thanks. But due to a decision taken by the previous Cabinet, Prince Constantijn's children (and those of his older brother Johan Friso) are/will be Counts and/or Countesses, instead of princes and princesses as one would expect a Prince's progeny to be. Some rot about too many princes and princesses possibly confusing the populace as to who has a right to the throne and who doesn't...so now we have a little Countess and a little Count with a valid claim (5th and 6th in line at the moment, 4th and 5th after their uncle Friso gets married next month and forfeits his place in the succession). It's really about the Civil List.
desdemonaspace
Mar. 22nd, 2004 05:51 am (UTC)
Interesting! I wish I lived in a monarchy. Oh, wait -- I do!
gamiila
Mar. 22nd, 2004 06:10 am (UTC)
You do? Explain, please!
desdemonaspace
Mar. 22nd, 2004 09:01 am (UTC)
It's George II, of the House of Bush.
gamiila
Mar. 22nd, 2004 11:13 pm (UTC)
Oh, of course! And he rules absolutely, too.

It seems to me as if it doesn't really matter whether you live in a constitutional monarchy or a republic...although having said that, I'm kind of glad I live in the former not in the later. More of a chance at pageantry...plus it's quite an unnecessary weight off your shoulders not to have to elect another figurehead every so many years.
desdemonaspace
Mar. 23rd, 2004 05:41 am (UTC)
It's why Americans make such a big deal about celebrities -- no figureheads to look up to. (It's the same reason the Kennedys were so popular -- when was the last time we had a glamorous First Lady?)

I've always thought monarchies were pretty cool, unless they were despotic. And hey, got the despotism right here at home, without the pageantry! ::grinds teeth::
gamiila
Mar. 23rd, 2004 05:47 am (UTC)
And hey, got the despotism right here at home, without the pageantry!

Well, at least you've got the chance to vote Bush out of office this coming November...though it remains to be seen whether the alternative is any better.
desdemonaspace
Mar. 23rd, 2004 07:39 am (UTC)
That's assuming we still have free elections. I ton't think 2000 was exactly a win for GW -- think his brother and the Supreme Court handed it to him.
db2305
Mar. 21st, 2004 08:51 am (UTC)
God, I'm so busy with other things I never read the papers or watch the news. I do remember zapping by an old interview with her and Bernard, but I never realized it was because of that. Sweet old Juul. I liked her, much less stuck uppity than Bea.
gamiila
Mar. 22nd, 2004 02:45 am (UTC)
God, I'm so busy with other things I never read the papers or watch the news.

Same with me, really. I only found out late Saturday evening when a friend phoned and mentioned it. And wasn't that just like her, going quietly in the weekend? It's as if she was thumbing her nose at the media one last time! ;-)
meko00
Mar. 21st, 2004 09:10 am (UTC)
Just a quick pop over via db2305, to offer my condolences.
gamiila
Mar. 22nd, 2004 02:41 am (UTC)
Thank you.
_alantie
Mar. 21st, 2004 11:52 am (UTC)
I'm American, but my mother named my little sister after Queen Juliana.

So we mourn her death too.
gamiila
Mar. 22nd, 2004 02:15 am (UTC)
I'm American, but my mother named my little sister after Queen Juliana

An American baby girl named after our Queen? I'm intrigued! There must be a story there...c'mon, let's have it!
onetwomany
Mar. 21st, 2004 12:18 pm (UTC)
I've heard a lot about Queen Juliana over the years. She sounds like an amazing woman. 94 was a very impressive innings, though. The chances she would have seen in her lifetime must have been astounding.
gamiila
Mar. 22nd, 2004 02:23 am (UTC)
The chances she would have seen in her lifetime must have been astounding.

2 World Wars, the Great Depression, exile, the former colonies (Indonesia & Suriname; we're still hanging on to the Antilles) achieving independent status, the rebuilding of the country after the devastation of the war and then the Flood of 1953 setting everything back again...women's suffrage...an aborted revolution attempt...yes, I suppose she did live through some remarkable times!
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